I consider myself a liberal, in its truest sense. I favor reform and progress, and i like to see a society free of prejudice. Last but not least, i fervently advocate tolerance.
In that sense, i respect an individual’s right to choose his/her partner.
But, and this is a HUGE . . . BUT
I don’t believe marriage should be anything but a union between a man and a woman.
All the craze behind redefining the legal defnition of ‘marriage’is bothersome indeed. I must say i am supportive of the notion that gay couples should have some sort of ‘union’ and be entitled to the same rights heterosexual married couples are afforded.
I don’t see no problem in gays being able - to receive the same tax breaks as married couples, to having the right to make decisions for their partner in the event of catastrophic illness or death, to being able to add your spouse to your health insurance policy, or to visit them in the hospital, as well as rights that most people never use, such as being able to sue for wrongful death, or to collect spousal benefits from Social Security or Workman’s Compensation. Rights to inheritance, adoptions, death benefits, and shared property.
Are Gays A Threat To Sacred Values?
When you take the politics out of the gay rights issue, it becomes a simple question of, “Are gays becoming a threat to the sacred values that helped define humanity since the beginning of time?”
I must admit that attempting to discuss this delicate and hot-button issue without antagonizing some people is unattainable, so i will not try.
The baffling gay rights debate is something in which a common ground can never be found. And personally, my unsettling feeling comes from a completely different perspective, and i will only opt to discuss one of them here.
The Issue of A Child(ren) Growing Up In A Gay Household
The issue of a child growing up in a household made of same-sex parents is something that should further be investigated by the scientific community, as to the future effect it bears on a child’s psyche and his/her future.
Of course, this is not to question of same-sex couple’s ability to love and nurture and successfully raise a model citizen. I am only strictly talking about (or raising the question of) a child missing on a mother-figure or a father-figure in his/her childhood.
Most would agree that a lack of either figure in a child’s life is cyclopean and usually has its consequences.
Therefore, i am not sure if a child who grows up under the parenthood of same-sex couples is the equivalent of a child lacking a major figure in his/her life, and growing up under a single parent. No man can fill the vacum that is there due to the lack of a mom-figure, and vice versa.
These sort of issues bother me the most about the gay rights and their fight for entitlement for everything heterosexuals married couples are entitled to, including the adoption of a child.
A child has, in most cases, no control of choosing his/her household. In that regard, it should be our duty to make sure that a child who is up for adoption be fitted into a household that answers (fulfills) the question of – a mother-figure and a father-figure.
It is from the child’s standpoint that i come to the conclusion that gay rights should have its limits. And if in the process of protecting our sacred values, we touch some wrong nerves, so be it.
I titled this post – - -
Gay Rights? Fine. But, What’s Next?
I have an idea . . . How about – - -
Legalize Polygamy !!!
Now that should be interesting eh?
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“The Issue of A Child(ren) Growing Up In A Gay Household”;
You made so much sense on that one, it is not even funny. You showed me a completely different point of view. Very fair assessment of the reality. Later.
That is a big question for me too and my belief that life starts at conseption.
How do you define liberal? In American we say liberal and conservatice. To my mind though we are saying that we agree on most issues except a few things like abortion, gun ownership, gay rights and abortion.
But to your point.
If a society says gays should have some rights, then where do we draw a boundary? Does this mean that we can recognize a gay orientation? If so would this gay person be allowed to live with another gay? Can this person write a will and give all to his/her partner? Can they be insured? Where do you draw the line.
It seems to me that you are showing your homophobic underbelly.
i dont juge
I try not to judge, and that goes for retrograde views (and spellings) on conception.
gebre,
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk,… So, my views are retrograde ’cause I believe that life starts at conception. And you are forward thinking because you don’t mind killing babies? (Yes, I said babies and it is true) Honestly, I am a huge fan of Obama but that happens to be my only and biggest stumbling blocks when it comes to voting for him. May be I should go ahead, vote my conscience, and pull the lever for the pro-life candidate.
gebre,
Here is a picture of a part of a baby aborted at 8 weeks.
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/AbortionPictures/08.html
Look at the picture and get back with me whether or not you think this is a baby.
@Mamitu – I think the abortion issue is one of the many issues that are lingering and hard to solve.
First, a woman should not be told by her government on what decision to make in regards to her body. That is, in my view, way past the boundary of government in private and personal matters or decisions.
Is abortion the best option for ALL women ALL the time? No. But the ability for a woman to say, “i can’t have this baby”, for whatever reason, however some view it as deplorable, should be respected.
I think this issue is best tackled by educating young women that there other options indeed, and that they don’t necessarily have to abort the voiceless life in their belly. Reducing abortion must be the goal of government.
Now i am against partial birth abortion. A woman who is aborting an almost fully developed baby poses a grave health danger to herself as well, and in that regard, i am adamant in saying partial birth abortion is a brutal procedure that fattens the pockets of abortion clinics and leave everyone else involved in grave danger.
I hope that makes sense.
@Mesfin- What is your point? Not homophobic here.
My point is that rights are rights, not with limitations. Either a society accpets or it pretends to accept. You are proposing the later.
Thank God you were not a popular item in the 60’s when others advocated civil rights with limits. Or when Reagan talked about Apartheid with limits. In fact they used your kind of language.
Well what next they said, would a black man start marrying our daughter.
Dr either you beleive that people, all people have equal rights in a society or, that some people have less rights than others….There is nothing in between really..
You cant be a liberal and advocate human rights are fine to have for some people in society and not others, that in any language and human rights would be described as discrimination, having a child is a human right for all in law at least…
I understand your concern about father/mother figures, but that concern is not unique about the gays.
All over there are entire groups of men and women who never grew up with father figures, less so with mother figures I think.
I have a neighbour who has had four children by four fathers. I have never seen two of them and the other two have long dissapeared from their children’s lives , two of those children are boys, one girl went the way of her mother and already has 2 children with no fathers around by age 18,no doubt the boys would do the same thing their fathers did because who is going to teach them different?…you could ask the same question about roles in a household with families of this type of dynamic , how come we dont have the same concern with children with no fathers or father figures in their lives?, it is only when the gays asks for the same rights as the straights that we become concerned and all the time it is the children of the straights that grow without the presence of a father and cant be fathers themselves later in life because they had no fathers themselves…
In my opinion,the same sex couples should have no right at all.They chose to be that way,nobody forced them and they have to take all the consequences.Some say being gay is something natural.I have never seen any scientific research which supports that thinking.I do not want them to be prosecuted or beaten or something like that.I do not want them to be mistreated or discriminated at work place.Honestly,if I am a hiring employer,I really do not care about the size of somebody’s ass hole.All I am saying is that they should be treated like everybody else in a normal day in and day out life with no special right.As for gays adopting children,I say HELL NO.
It is always nice to see what lies underneath. We use euphemisms to say what we cant say. That is that we do not tolerate what we do not know or understand. On this issue there is no possibility of discussion, where people are so vicserally biased and closeminded.
Mesfin,
Sometimes what lies beneath at least on my part is the same thing that lies on the surface,…
I beleive in a society that practises equal rights for all , including the right to a family life regardles of their race, sex or sexual practises. I cannot abide by the fact that a human being like me should have less rights that I do. That is not right and is discrimnatory and things like that are unjust…….
Anyway where I live gay couples marry and adopt childen legally almost three years now, for the most part no one cares and no one minds and now that the gays can marry legally they are also divorcing as much the straights….and if everyone is divorcing gays or straights no one gay or straight is infact thinking of the welfare of the children they adopt anyway, in my view…
heya Doc.
I am very slow in picking up your tendencies. But, I am sorry to say this, but I have been disappointed by many homosexual men as they are caring, sensitive and loving, and what would seem to be the perfect mate for a girl, yet they go for other guys! Girls like men who understand them. but gay guys are incredibly cool and light-hearted and fun to hang around indeed. Shame Lonely Planet says that the Ethiopian government forbids such actions.
@purpleamhariccoffee –
I couldn’t agree with you more. Gays, in general, are some of the coolest, easy going, fun loving and quite frankly easy-to-get-along-with folks that i know.